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"it takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to.
---henry david thoreau (1817-1862)
When a religion basses it beliefs on a book full of myths, legends and superstitions, what can you expect?
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
wouldn`t it be great to get some territory cards with a list of dubs adresses?walk up to there door all dressed up with your briefcase and ring the bell and wait to see the joyful smile on there face willing to greet a fellow dub!
and then pull out some old quotes from old mags and confront them!hey why not make up a few pamphlets too!
yes we were just in the neighbourhood calling on you and your neighbours with some new light!
Sounds like a Seinfeld episode. The one where Jerry goes to the girls work and starts heckling her. It was a funny one.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.
you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.
i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.
Good for you boys, now you can go back to the other J dubs and tell them how you put up for the "fine fight of the faith". You just don't get it. We don't want anything to do with you and your man made organization. You Dubs never respect others points of view and right to believe the way we want to believe. I am not trying to change you Mann & YK and I wish you all the best in your decision to go back to the organization. We can discuss things here but stop trying to change everyone else. It isn't working you know.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
dear all, .
this is my 100th post, and i decided to repost something i originally did as a post on h2o a couple of years ago.
it was a reply to somebody, and buried miles-deep in the thread, so hopefully it wont have been read by too many already.
terafera
I can relate to that I still get it from my mother and sister. I like the statement "I'm sure she will rectify her thinking after she dedicates her life to Jehovah". Are you sure they she didn't say to you that you needed an "attitude adjustment"? Another favorite catch phrase of the dubs.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.
you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.
i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.
Do you hate yourself that much that you have to resort to name calling? I never called you a name but you will find that people with lower intelligence resort to these types of tactics when they can't respond in an intelligent manner. I think you have to learn to love and respect yourself first before you go preaching to others.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.
you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.
i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.
Hey Mann is that the way a good JW should respond? Did Jesus talk like that to his oppressors??
dear all, .
this is my 100th post, and i decided to repost something i originally did as a post on h2o a couple of years ago.
it was a reply to somebody, and buried miles-deep in the thread, so hopefully it wont have been read by too many already.
Duncan,
Good post. I read some years back a book called Games People Play. It describe this as a greeting ritual. For instance 2 men at work walk by and the conversation goes like this:
MAN 1: Hi How are you?
MAN 2: Good and you?
MAN 1: Can complain
MAN 2: That's good, Bye
MAN 1: Bye
They go there separate ways. Now they could do this for years every morning the same ritual. Same thing with J dubs, they have their rituals and as another J dub you go along with it. Have you notice though what happens if you break the ritual? They don't know what to do because you are not following the game. Example:
SISTER 1: Boy thing can't get any worse.
SISTER 2: Yeah you can say that again. We can only look forward to the paradise when Jehovah will make things better.
SISTER 1: Yes that's for sure.
But what would happen if SISTER 2 responded with, "What do you mean?? Everything couldn't be better. I just got a new job etc." SISTER 1 would not know how to reply because SISTER 2 did not follow the game plan.
You are so right it is just a way for them to escape reality. I know in the case of my mother she has been playing the game now for over 50 years and it would be very hard for her to change now. That would mean that she would have to omit that she has been wrong for the last 50 years and it would probably kill her. Anyway it is an interesting read.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
here's my top ten reasons why jw's attend kingdomhall!!!
whats your top ten??
can anyone add to my list?.
Here's my top ten reasons why JW's attend Kingdomhall!!! Whats your top ten?? Can anyone add to my list?
10. To catch up on your sleep.
9. To practice your used car saleperson smile.
8. To pick up your weekly supply of toilet paper.
7. To keep up on local JW gossip.
6. To Practice your brown nosing techneques.
5. Only place you can hear a guy that can't run his own affairs get
up on the platform and tell you how to run your affairs.
4. Hear what "new light" the WTBTS has made up.
3. Hear what "new light" the WTBTS is now saying is "old light".
2. To see who needs an "additude adjustment" and rat out on them.
1. Good place when you have nothing else to do to waste a couple of
hours of time.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
we know the wt society has a long history of prophecies, especially regarding dates.
almost 100% of such prophecy was in error.. it seems though, that they got a date right by foretelling that 1914 would be "the end of the world as we know it".
yes, they changed the meaning of 1914 several times.
I am just wondering how long it will take for the GB to come along with new light and move to times of the gentiles up?? I am sure they must be planning something as the 1914 generation is starting wear a little thin now. Anyway you heard it here first.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
who can prove to me or show me that jws have teachings or even doctrines that are there to servce the interest s of the gov.body.
by this i mean, if it wasn't in their interest, they wouldn't stress these doctrines (teachings) or wouldn't even exist for them.
what particular teachings serve their interests?.
Governing body is spirit directed and our only channel to God.
Will
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's."
Mark Twain
